Modern XMPP project discussion - 2024-06-30

Wow, the last UI overhaul in Gajim is amazing!

No, sorry

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Silly brain

Océane: why not both 😂

New Gajim UI is goofy and too GTK tablet-like interface

It's similar to Dino now in that aspect

Not a huge fan

I like Psi+ but I want a more efficient way to search through my contacts and MUCs. Profanity seems decent except that it has no sidebar

> New Gajim UI is goofy and too GTK tablet-like interface Yeah I mean, that's pretty much what you sign up for when installing anything Gtk ✏

> I want a more efficient way to search through my contacts and MUCs. What's wrong with Ctrl+N?

>> New Gajim UI is goofy and too GTK tablet-like interface > Yeah I mean, that's pretty much what you sign up for when installing anything Gtk gtk2 is nice though ↺

But I think Qt is my favorite

>> I want a more efficient way to search through my contacts and MUCs. > What's wrong with Ctrl+N? I like having a compact sidebar and /buffer or /win commands ↺

And events window is fricking amazing, thanks Profanity

Squeaky Latex Folf: I'd be surprised if gajim committers were hostile to contributions bringing such workflows, and gajim has plugins in the worst case

I'm not very interested in contributing to gajim

It's a slow Python client

To make it meet my personal needs, it needs to be 100% rewritten

Yeah, though I'd argue that if it's slow it's unlikely because of python

It seems to be a common theme among Python programs

Gajim is Python and slow, Nicotine+ is Python and slow

>I like having a compact sidebar You can achieve this yourself in the code. I've played with it a bit myself.

Maybe it's correlation and not causation, but still

Im currently trying to switch to Profanity (from MCabber) and ironically my #1 issue is searching through contacts/groups.

>>I like having a compact sidebar > You can achieve this yourself in the code. I've played with it a bit myself. Where? ↺

In Profanity?

Squeaky Latex Folf: Yeah.

Would be nice if you can link me to it

I was referring to gajim. Maybe you were not referring to that.

I did notice that Profanity's codebase is not optimal. They should use structs more instead of a high quantity of ever-changing arguments

I just mean the UI. Navigation based on non-persistent chat numbers just doesn't work too well for me.

Whether /msg and/or /win work depends on context.

And so on.

But _except_ for navigation it's awesome :-)

I briefly tried Aparté and I made a contribution that's still not merged because the maintainer is inactive or something

Aparté's codebase has a few WTFs though

if you are serious about xmpp, you just write your own client

> if you are serious about xmpp, you just write your own client Yeah, like serious about giving the world even more bitrot and unmaintained clients 🙂

I mean everyone is free to do it of course, but when xmpp already has at least three semi-abandoned TUI clients, it doesn't make much sense to start another one in Rust 🤷‍♂️

If it's not Rust it didn't happen.

Both profanity and poezio had commits in the last days. I'm not sure about the state of mcabber and libervia-tui (formerly known as primitivus), though.