Modern XMPP project discussion - 2024-08-07

I just found this room

> Switching to MLS is likely to be about as large a task as switching to a different OMEMO version. Can't MLS coexist with OMEMO the same way MIX would coexist with MUC? ↺

You mean every client can just do both?

There is no other way. Since it is e2ee. The server has nearly nothing to do with it.

> You mean every client can just do both? I mean, Gajim still has the option to choose encryption protocol. So communities can decide to switch over whenever they deem implementations to be ready. ↺

A room needing to support slower-moving clients can use OMEMO and, if e2ee cross-IM-protocol federation is implemented, a multi-IM room could use MLS.

Sure, that's likely how it goes. If we see how it went with pgp and otr

Couldn't you do the same with another version of OMEMO? So costs are likely to be similar

> Sad-laughing at the situation, I guess. The XMPP ecosystem had barely reached OMEMO ubiquity, and now we have to chuck out all that work, and work (more or less from scratch) on MLS. seeing the lack of libraries for omemo supporting the newest one compared to MLS i would say we are more ahead with mls actually. since we are not alone implementing it

Which descriptiive subtitle would be nicerfor project Blasta? (1) PubSub Bookmarks (2) Jabber Bookmarks

depends on your target audience

or you could just say "Federated link sharing" or so. ✏

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首先把这个群当空气没有任何上线，以前有证据的，全都给我踢出去不符合社会主义共产主义核心价值观的，全都给我踢出去开玩笑过大的也踢出去反对共产主义踢出去发现有无脑小鬼，无脑网左，极端主义者，极端主义小鬼，爱国猴，机会主义分子全都立马踢出去对群里有威胁的也踢出去。戳一戳踢出去，吃糖踢出去，是大利也踢出去，玩恐怖游戏要踢出去，当摊主要踢出去，沙利文不能留，要踢出去，不发言的踢出去，过于活跃无所事事的踢出去，不积极向上的踢出去，过于亢奋的踢出去，发牢骚的踢出去，骂人的踢出去，抽象的踢出去，广告的踢出去，

事物总是要向反面的，吹得越高，跌得越重，我是准备跌得粉碎的。那也没有什么要紧，物质不灭，不过粉碎吧

股市总是要走向反面的，吹得越高，跌的越重，我是准备富得流油的，那也没什么要紧，市场不灭，只是滞胀罢了———哈公

2：00 对手：呵，撞地雷了

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please, this channel is English speaking.

What XEP deals with the 'related channels' feature in clients like cheogram and monocles (in the muc info tab)

that's service discovery on the MUC service. dunno with XEP covers that

but you can do the same in Gajim

Yeah apparently xep-0030 disco

I'm having trouble finding out why search.jabber.network does not show vcard avatars for my channels (loqi.im)