Modern XMPP project discussion - 2022-12-06


  1. MS

    Guys

  2. MS

    Here are my two cents: https://chat.modernxmpp.org/paste/8c493345-2c12-4d6f-a8ef-4232d3d598c9

  3. MS

    what do you think?

  4. L29Ah

    you're going to be mocked for in-<message> hack

  5. MS

    ???

  6. L29Ah

    it requires users to produce some somewhat-meaningful string each time they want to have a thread

  7. L29Ah

    while "in-reply-to:" semantics allows generated id's and works without much user input

  8. MS

    Bear in mind that I'm just a user, I'm no technical expert in this nor do know much about XMPP or its history

  9. L29Ah

    https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0461.html

  10. MS

    I just used Slack/Matrix etc and they seem pretty useful to me -- in a nepharious way at that

  11. MS

    I suppose https://chat.modernxmpp.org/paste/1ce21208-1ff2-4ed6-9aba-3acf5e447a34

  12. MS

    ie addint the `threadId` key

  13. MS

    ie addingthe `threadId` key

  14. MS

    ie adding the `threadId` key

  15. MS

    anyways, Its just a thought

  16. MS

    I like XMPP and since this is the "modernize" forum I wanted to give you guys my feedback

  17. L29Ah

    MS: a very similar thing already exists: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0201.html

  18. L29Ah

    but i didn't see much support in clients

  19. MS

    ahhh

  20. MS

    so it's a client thing, huh

  21. L29Ah

    yeah, nothing to do at the server side in both cases

  22. L29Ah

    it already relays whatever you need

  23. Zash

    So, encoding semantics in the plain text is generally not a good idea, but if users want to type things in special ways they're all free to say whatever they want.

  24. MS

    Yes, well my opinion on clients is not good -- they're all over the place

  25. MS

    anyways, keep at it

  26. MS

    You guys are great for doing this

  27. Zash

    That is a natural consequence of open protocols after enough time when projects are started at different times, with different priorities and different resources.

  28. MS

    I suppose then, I should've opined on the Gajim/Dino chat rooms

  29. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Better yet. Open issues, get involved :)

  30. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Ots better to document suggestion so we dont forget

  31. Zash

    Be the change you want to see in the world! ;)

  32. MSavoritias (fae,ve)

    Yep :D