Modern XMPP project discussion - 2026-02-19

Sounds like, uh, pretty normal behavior.

Soatok: boop

> Sounds like, uh, pretty normal behavior. Hi Soatok ! This is my buddy distaza , he is making a new XMPP implementation in Lua from scratch.

I've been hanging out with the XMPP server operators and devs here, discussing ways to improve XMPP.

Hey, don't mind me, just looking for my research notes and then seeing if there's actually anything worth talking about

I'll share a gist privately if anything isn't a false positive

I last looked at the code in like... 2024? And was like "yeah these will be annoying to validate without violating the CFAA" lol

What is a CFAA?

Computer Fraud and Abuse Act

Ah

Dumb law, written before the Internet was even a thing

I go out of my way to not run afoul of it

Don't remind me, the Indian Telegraph Act 1885 had been in effect to deal with digital communications, until it was replaced in.. 2023.

>> the Ejabberd people recently started coding a Discord looking xmpp client, and apparently it is half decent already: https://www.process-one.net/blog/introducing-fluux-messenger-a-modern-xmpp-client-born-from-a-holiday-coding-session/ > > ❤️ Hopefully it can be reused and AI influence can be filtered out.

Hey yall, I've been speaking to devs elsewhere again and have some ideas to share back here

So as per the previous conversation on writing XEPs to integrate Discords reverse engineered API into XMPP

I have also investigated existing efforts on connecting XMPP to ActivityPub

there is already a bridge for AP

little known, but quite advanced apparently

https://libervia.org/__b/doc/backend/components.html#activitypub-gateway

Mrah - good evening, I was referred to this chat through a friend as it came up in conversation with the recent Discord issues - especially as some of our UK friends *already* got asked to *re*verify their age, so ... I am very interested in modernizations here. Not a big dev in terms of security//cryptography and coms, but I do like to occasionally meddle and give input on decisions, especially because I am of the strong opinion that the main thing holding XMPP back is a lack of good client UX right now ... So, yeah, appreciate what you are doing <3

luci: thanks!

distaza: aside of things which were already mentioned you may want to check out https://www.leonerd.org.uk/code/circle/

> And do TLS and security via third party socketed programs - encryption without binding it to program logic, which means controlled side effects and problems You want UCSPI <https://cr.yp.to/proto/ucspi.txt>. It's the closest thing to plan9 `dial` this side of OS design. In particular the implementation at https://www.skarnet.org/software/s6-networking/ has explicit starttls support. ↺