Modern XMPP project discussion - 2025-05-10


  1. pjoter

    hi

  2. Kris

    Hi

  3. pjoter

    is anyone here in a larger private group (+100 users) with omemo enabled? is such a group significantly more demanding on the server? and is key exchange fairly smooth when a new person joins?

  4. Kris

    Not on the server, but omemo doesn't scale well to large groups due to key exchange.

  5. Kris

    There is some ongoing works to support MLS in xmpp that will solve this.

  6. Kris

    But e2ee in such large groups is of very little practical benefit.

  7. pjoter

    okay, but can you estimate at what point scaling will be acceptable? and what if at some point it just can’t handle it?

  8. Kris

    There is no strict limit. The main isdue is when people add new devices.

  9. Kris

    If that group is fairly stable in regards to connecting devices then it can work.

  10. pjoter

    i see, thanks