Modern XMPP project discussion - 2024-10-04

> > you dont have to switch at once. you can prepare pieces slowly to be distributed :) > > also it could lead to a better architecture with destributed being the side-effect > Just like Matrix has been "close to being peer-to-peer" for 6 years (not to mention federated identities, "any week from now"), > I don't believe those aspects are trivial and can be rolled-out incrementally without a clearly defined and generally accepted plan beforehand what are you talking about? p2p matrix has been abandoned for years. same with federated identities. there is no progress because nobody works on them. also tbh i doubt you can bring matrix/element as a good example for something like this :)

MSavoritias (fae,ve): you are making my point, exactly

I don't believe in those coming up as an afterthought

Matrix supporting the point as an example of failure

again matrix has nothing to do with it. its a bad example. they are essentially close to bankrupt so they dropped all projects except gov projects. as it ot im gonna drop it.

Yeah but before that they had a run of several years where they could have made it happen if it was trivial

And it's probably not trivial precisely because you've got a whole ecosystem on your hands to migrate, on top of the intrinsic complexity of the task

And those seem very much applicable to XMPP