Modern XMPP project discussion - 2023-05-15


  1. minist3r

    I wish conversations could have the option to be set as default SMS app so cellular SMS can be routed to the app so I don't need multiple messaging apps

  2. menel

    Thr closest to that is https://jmp.chat/ But that's a long way only for disabling one other app

  3. reika

    minist3r, agreed.

  4. minist3r

    Ya it would help me convince others to use xmpp

  5. contrapunctus

    If that means I also get SMS in Gajim, and don't have to switch from the laptop to the phone to respond to SMS, I'm in.

  6. robertooo

    contrapunctus, just use KDE Connect.

  7. menel

    SMS with any xmpp client, including desktop is possible via jmp 🙂

  8. minist3r

    > SMS with any xmpp client, including desktop is possible via jmp 🙂 Ya but I already get unlimited text, talk, and 15gb for $20 a month I don't want to pay more for jmp

  9. menel

    Yes, first remove your current plan 🙂, I agree 👍

  10. Zash

    on-device bridge? :)

  11. minist3r

    > Yes, first remove your current plan 🙂, I agree 👍 Jmp is too expensive

  12. L29Ah

    still cheaper than jne due to the branch prediction :P

  13. minist3r

    What's jne

  14. lissine

    I think it's a joke jmp being an assembly instruction (meaning "goto") jne (jump not equal) being another assembly instruction that jumps only if a previous test of two registers found them unequal jmp is cheaper than jne because the processor can optimize since it knows it will execute it. with jne, however, for optimization the processor has the predict beforehand wether or not to to make the jump the prediction can be wrong hence it's " expensive" if interested look up cpu piplene sorry for the off-topic

  15. lissine

    I think it's a joke jmp being an assembly instruction (meaning "goto") jne (jump not equal) being another assembly instruction that jumps only if a previous test of two registers found them unequal jmp is cheaper than jne because the processor can begin its execution early since it knows it will execute it. with jne, however, for optimization, the processor has to predict beforehand whether or not to to make the jump the prediction can be wrong hence it's " expensive" if interested look up cpu piplene sorry for the off-topic

  16. MattJ

    > Jmp is too expensive I don't think it's too expensive for what it does, but it certainly would be too expensive for some use-cases. JMP is a whole phone number with SMS and calls, not "just" a way to get SMS into an XMPP app. From that perspective, I'd say JMP is a relatively cheap way to obtain a phone number, especially an XMPP-enabled one (a feature other phone providers don't support).

  17. MattJ

    For SMS from my existing phone to my desktop, I've used MAXS in the past. KDE Connect is something I'd consider trying in the future.

  18. minist3r

    >> Jmp is too expensive > I don't think it's too expensive for what it does, but it certainly would be too expensive for some use-cases. JMP is a whole phone number with SMS and calls, not "just" a way to get SMS into an XMPP app. From that perspective, I'd say JMP is a relatively cheap way to obtain a phone number, especially an XMPP-enabled one (a feature other phone providers don't support). It's not really expensive I just got a 15gb plan with unlimited talk n text so it's hard to justify around $25 a month for 3gb + talk/text that isn't unlimited

  19. minist3r

    >> I don't think it's too expensive for what it does, but it certainly would be too expensive for some use-cases. JMP is a whole phone number with SMS and calls, not "just" a way to get SMS into an XMPP app. From that perspective, I'd say JMP is a relatively cheap way to obtain a phone number, especially an XMPP-enabled one (a feature other phone providers don't support). > It's not really expensive I just got a 15gb plan with unlimited talk n text for $20 a month so it's hard to justify around $25 a month for 3gb + talk/text that isn't unlimited

  20. minist3r

    > It's not really expensive I just got a 15gb plan with unlimited talk n text for $20 a month so it's hard to justify around $25 a month for 3gb + talk/text that isn't unlimited

  21. minist3r

    It's not really expensive I just got a 15gb plan with unlimited talk n text for $20 a month so it's hard to justify around $25 a month for 3gb + talk/text that isn't unlimited