Modern XMPP project discussion - 2022-03-30

> https://docs.modernxmpp.org/meetings/2019-01-brussels/ > I think it's linked from somewhere This is some great reading material. It's great to see the thought process going on with the direction of modern XMPP. I'm hoping that modern XMPP can win the adoption game ahead of it's competitors like Matrix

Which IOS XMPP client is recomended nowaways? One that has most modern XEP's implemented and has support for stun/turn, omemo in 1:1 chats and preferably in MUC's

Siskin I'd think, or Snikket if you want that kind of setup ✏

Alright, I wish there was a client as stable and feature rich as conversations for IOS

Not that I use IOS myself but my some of my family members do

gooya: Snikket iOS has something resembling feature parity with Snikket Android which is basically Conversations

Which other clients than conversation have bugs preventing complete mam update?

Im interested in clients where a new account can join many mucs , irc rooms etc. Ie you cn copy paste roomlist into Poezio cfg

> gooya: Snikket iOS has something resembling feature parity with Snikket Android which is basically Conversations Yeah but imho its just not as polished yet

Please report any specifics

"It's not very polished" isn't really actionable 🙂

> "It's not very polished" isn't really actionable 🙂 That's true. I can't hightlight any specifics as of now, as I don't use it myself but I'll certainly get back to this with some recommendations/bugs? One of the things that do come to mind is the lack of push notifications but I believe this has to do with IOS not liking apps to stay in the background?

It has had push notifications since the start

Group notifications were lacking for a while while it was in beta, you may be thinking of that

iOS doesn't allow apps to stay in the background, but that's precisely what push notifications solve

> Group notifications were lacking for a while while it was in beta, you may be thinking of that Alright that's good to know :)

Btw does snikket support scram-sha-512 by any chance? Since it's a fork of conversations.

> iOS doesn't allow apps to stay in the background, but that's precisely what push notifications solve I just remembered that one of my family members told me that they weren't getting notifications when battery saver mode is enabled

gooya [19:35]: > Btw does snikket support scram-sha-512 by any chance? Since it's a fork of conversations. If Conversations does, then probably yes (on Android)

Snikket server doesn't, and I don't know about iOS... I've no particular interest in supporting it

I'm opposed to anything other than SCRAM-SHA-1 until we have an upgrade mechanism.

> I've no particular interest in supporting it > I'm opposed to anything other than SCRAM-SHA-1 until we have an upgrade mechanism. Understandable, I don't really support it either. It's just that I accidentally switched to sha512 when I wasn't as knowledged as I am now. And letting all my users change their password is gonna be a bit of a hassle..

I'm planning to work on auth stuff this year which may help with migration

No way to switch/upgrade is precisely why nobody should have even thought about adding new SCRAM variants in the first place.

But that's not the main focus, I primarily want to support per-device authentication