Modern XMPP project discussion - 2021-12-11

soooo... what's the current opinion on XMPP vs Jabber vs ?

"Just install this app to talk to me"

"Here's a Snikket invite!"

that doesn't help when i want to advertise my address

without talking to someone about it

or inviting someone specifically

xmpp:foo@bar.baz

it's not just an xmpp address tho

in my case

if we have no name at all, then how do we explain it? only in terms of a single app?

and then naming 10 other apps it's compatible with?

seems inefficient to me

Yes, we use a vanilla Converse at JabberFR, without any non-merged patch.

There's things like https://conversations.im/i/zash@example.com or https://yax.im/i/#zash@example.com

ok, so XMPP is defnitely preferred over jabber

(when i talk to people who used it before, but haven't in many years, they usually refer to it as jabber, hence my question)

thx

raucao: Jabber is a trademark owned by Cisco. As far as I'm concerned that's good enough reason not to promote it or build a new generation of software and documentation around it

But yes, in certain circles it is very much still the popular name. And it's way better than "XMPP" for end users

i'm aware of the trademark issue. otherwise i'd be endorsing the term everywhere

> And it's way better than "XMPP" for end users that's the crux of the matter

a real pickle

what would a team of competent branding experts do?

(if they had deep technical knowledge of this whole topic)

don't get me wrong, i think the app approach is helpful for a lot of situations

similar to how you don't have to know pleroma to create a mastodon account and then follow someone who pops up in your feed

but nothing quite beats the simplicity of "this is my email address" "can you just email me?"

and, unfortunately, the same with "i'm on telegram" etc.

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/unified-communications/jabber/index.html

can current jabber users actually message any JID?

in theory, yes… if properly configured.

there are some issues when it comes to MUCs