Modern XMPP project discussion - 2020-04-18

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greetings

XMPP protocol supports live videocam chats yes?

chunk: the protocol does, although not many clients support it

ok. well i imagine it's not hard to write a program or wrapper sorta thing into a php website to use it aye

i should look into this along my way

hi btw

chunk: yeah, should be doable!

chunk: a quick Google threw up https://www.jsxc.org/, which seems to have video calling support

ahh cool. i will look now

im in the midst of looking for muc's

Jitsi Meet

jonas’, o/

https://www.jsxc.org/ I am a fan cooool

Movim.eu also supports it.

And ConverseJS has a community plugin that integrates Jitsi Meet

But if you need video conferences with multiple people then Jitsi Meet is the best/only option right now that builds upon xmpp.

AFAIK ;)

I think the beta of Conversations has it now too, so the next version should have it.

For 1:1 chats anyways, not the same thing Jitsi Meet is doing.

excellent ok

I was planning on maybe reviving and old project for webcams. it would start out as one cam one way for the time being then later to include 1v1

is it strictly xmpp protocol that is the realtime video? or does it use webrtc or rtmp or some such i wonder

XMPP itself primarily lets you negotiate use of something else, ie signaling, like SIP.

Actual media is handled by something else like webrtc etc

hmmm ok..

I wanted to try out the wowza streaming engine again, i had fun with that software previously. it uses rtmp and flv and other stuff also i guess

but webrtc iirc there's a free server software available for that too

oooh ya. prosody on it's way

coffee time

chunk: maybe too late but Snikket is a nice easy way to host Prosody

i am about the avoiding of excess other packages

such as i built a couple of laravel websites, my first two really, and i used a few packages from other ppl that were probably not necessary that i could've, shoud've, programmed the functions myself and regretted that and called it ugly bloat ever since.

so I try to code as much of my own stuff as possible. But that's cool also for creativity as well. and keeping b.s. functions not lying around

exploitable stuff, or just ugly stuff. i don't really like to modify pre-existing code, i like to create it outta thin air more like :)

atuff like intermittent, middle or mediary stuff like an API or a server service like wowza streaming engine, that's acceptable because of the sheer amount of work that it's taking from myself to have to code.

ofc i don't want to reinvent the wheel right

Sure, your choice. But Snikket is basically just a nicely preconfigured Prosody in a Docker container AFAIK.

and a branded Conversations to go with it

oh? I got the conversations app last christmas free :D:D <3

<3 love that android app.

Did u know... That Google Hangouts AND facebook messenger both used to use the XMPP protocol?

Google Talk even federated

coool.

But that's opensource in it's finest right

contributing to the success of constructive ppl to get ahead and eventually have their own protocol to use.

https://www.jsxc.org/ I really did enjoy this presentation. I'm curious what the app looks like

https://github.com/jsxc/jsxc/wiki/Install-jsxc straight up I'm installing this

eta, ty very much for that link

> Did u know... That Google Hangouts AND facebook messenger both used to use the XMPP protocol? WhatsApp is inside basically xmpp to this day...

> https://www.jsxc.org/ I really did enjoy this presentation. I'm curious what the app looks like There is a good Nextcloud app with JSXC

> eta написав: > chunk: yeah, should be doable! > chunk: a quick Google threw up https://www.jsxc.org/, which seems to have video calling support Unfortunately, no videoconferencing.

> Я написав: > Unfortunately, no videoconferencing. Yes, NC has a jsxc app, which may work in 3 modes: internal php based (without file transfer, groups, video/audio, external with ejabber or prosody or something other, and managed - provided by third party service). Works fine and easy integrating. I know, it may work as standalone app, with NC, Sogo and some other services.

Video conferencing with videobridge apparently is planned in JSXC next release (when ever that is).

> kris написав: > Video conferencing with videobridge apparently is planned in JSXC next release (when ever that is). That's interesting... As I understand, I will need to set up and host additional components myself? As by now jsxc is just php based app.

yes that needs a additional component for your xmpp server

jsxc is just the client.

in javascript

or are you using the very basic fake xmpp server build into the JSXC nextcloud PHP app?