Modern XMPP project discussion - 2020-03-21


  1. rion updated ICE PR meanwhile

  2. rion

    If I update a XEP, should I also update <revision/> or it's responsibility of someone who will merge?

  3. Link Mauve

    You can, it will help the editor to not have to do it, but otherwise it’s “their job”.

  4. lovetox

    so im pretty finished with our new Onboarding Wizard in Gajim

  5. lovetox

    i wonder how i should do the recommended server thing

  6. lovetox

    right now we ship a list of servers

  7. lovetox

    that offer IBR

  8. lovetox

    but i fear this list will always be outdated

  9. lovetox

    i could request a list from our server, but im not sure people will like it if i contact the gajim server on start

  10. lovetox

    ideas welcome

  11. rion

    We need xmpp.org back with always updated list :)

  12. Zash

    Could shove something in DNS. There's some indirection and caching there that somewhat helps with the privacy aspects.

  13. Zash

    Could have a hardcoded list and a button to fetch more from wherever

  14. lovetox

    i want to avoid the hardcoded list because of stable distributions

  15. lovetox

    that keep the software there forever

  16. Ge0rG

    rion: xmpp.org is not about the servers, it's about the protocol

  17. Zash

    ITYM xmpp.net

  18. lovetox

    but maybe, people can live with it, that if they press Sign Up, that gajim does a http request

  19. rion

    Ge0rG: ok ok. I just have a different sense of humor

  20. Zash

    lovetox: If you make it clear that that's what you're doing before you do it then it should be fine

  21. rion

    btw did anyone implement rfc 8445 (recent ICE) ?

  22. rion

    I mean at all. maybe w/o xmpp

  23. Ge0rG

    rion: unfortunately it's not funny

  24. kris

    lovetox: maybe something to use joinxmpp.org for?

  25. Ge0rG

    We could have a list of modern xmpp servers on modernxmpp...

  26. rion

    👍

  27. pep.

    lovetox, eventually I'd like to have some kind of list dump with joinxmpp that clients can use yeah, or query directly but something something privacy

  28. Ge0rG

    Just put it on clownflare

  29. lovetox

    Ge0rG, if you have time you could try the new account wizard in Gajim master, feedback welcome

  30. Ge0rG

    lovetox: I'll have a look tomorrow.