Modern XMPP project discussion - 2019-12-08

marc.laporte: how is it?

And what client? :)

I have a soft spot for the form factor - I actually learnt to code on a Psion Series 3

All the current keyboard phones are a bit too expensive for something I'm not 100% confident I'll like

But I'm really sad after I had to leave behind my HTC Desire Z because it was just too slow for recent Android

And I'm still missing my 9500 a little bit, despite its broken hinges, and limitation to GPRS and 802.11b

I sometimes boot up my N900 and play Robot finds kitten

I was a long time PuTTY / ConnectBot user of screen + irssi + poezio, and it was acceptable on qwerty phones and unbearable on regular Androids. However, with yaxim and a swipe keyboard I'm perfectly fine for most of my chatting needs now, and only become frustrated when I need to do mobile SSH for server administration reasons

And with the Cosmo being built around a MediaTek CPU you know it will never receive an upgrade to the next major Android version.

But maybe it's good enough as a mini Linux toy

It's very expensive for a toy

Is it?

I guess I'm talking as someone who has never bought a phone (for myself)

(I apparently can't see without JavaScript)

hones are expensive :(

(smart)phones at least

They're in the same price range as some laptops afaik.

I guess if my phone died (and it's not too healthy already), I could consider it, given that it doubles as a phone and I use my phone as a phone 0.1% of the time

and the other 99.9% of the time I complain about capacitive touchscreens and software keyboards

MattJ: I guess you don't know anyone who bought a yacht either?

Who says toys need to be cheap?

MattJ: modern touch screens are pretty good, you can get a very decent phone in the 200€ range, at least in the EU

Sometimes I miss my 3310

Ge0rG, modern touch screens work in the rain?

See, I don't live in California

That's a good point. I'm not often using my phone out in the rain

When I am, I usually *really* want it to work

Instead it ignores my touches, or starts ghost-tapping on random things

Yeah, right. There's no means to that, except moving to California

MattJ: Conversations on Android 9

Ge0rG: why will Cosmo not get an upgrade because of MediaTek?

marc.laporte: MediaTek is notoriously bad with kernel and driver support. They publish their SoC together with the public android du jour and go on designing the next SoC, completely forgetting the old one

And you can't simply forward port their driver mess, unless you have a large and dedicated team of android driver specialists

https://store.planetcom.co.uk/products/gemini-pda-1 is MediaTek and supports upgradefrom 7 to 8

I suspect street price of Gemini will go down as some upgrade to the Cosmo ✏

From what I read

Cosmo is supposed to be more usable as a phone, compared to the Gemini

I got used to the tiny BlackBerry Priv keyboard so the Cosmo's keyboard is huge in comparison ✏